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Author Topic: Liferaft , standard ISO 9650 F- DIS  (Read 2401 times)
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« on: January 23, 2007, 00:45:03 AM »

E-2-a A self-inflatable life raft complying with at least the French standards
of the Class V (1975), the standard ISO 9650 F- DIS or the standard
ISO 6185-1.


Hello !
anybody with an idea what exactly the rule means ? PLASTIMO offers 2 ISO standards.9650-1 (A+B, depending on weather region, cold or warmer water) und ISO 9650-2. The 9650-2 coastel weighs only 24 KG but seems to apply with the Classe Mini rules. The 2 others weigh 30-32 KG.

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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2007, 01:18:15 AM »

its now: E 2 a : Un radeau de sauvetage auto-gonflable correspondant au minimum à la norme 9650-1.
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2007, 15:57:24 PM »

Have a look on Viking Resc'You (www.viking-yachting.com).
The valise model only 24 kg with 73x37x37 measures
Of course ISO 9650-1...
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2007, 16:46:46 PM »

Hi,

I think the Viking Resc'You Raft is not ISO 9650-1 compliant. Just the Viking Resc'You Raft Pro seems to be. In the general describtion of the Pro version is said that it was designed and tested according to ISO 9650-1. This is missing for the non Pro version.

The Pro version weights 28 kg which is still light I think

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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2007, 19:46:08 PM »

Hi Ubik,
Not so obvious :
If you read description of Viking RescYou (not the pro one), § Material, it is written :
"Approved materials acc. to ISO 9650/1".

The Pro one seems to fit with the old french class II;
Maybe we should confirm with the Class : if agreed, 24kg is better than 28kg for same size.
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2007, 20:20:02 PM »

Hi Marra,

its true they write that the material is approved to ISO 9650-1. But I would say that does not mean that all requirements of ISO 9650-1 are fulfilled.
It is a bit strange that they write about the material and ISO 9650-1. There is a special part of the standard just for the materials (ISO 9650-3: Small craft - Inflatable liferafts - Part 3: Material). I think what they mean is that the non pro raft is made of a material that would be ok for an offshore raft.
If you really want to know the truth, ask viking for a declaration of conformity. In this sheet of paper the manufacturer mentions all standards which the product complies to.

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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2007, 03:33:54 AM »

Hi All
 
 I don't know if it's going to be of any help, but in Spain, the viking RESC'U 4 UKL and viking RESC'U 4 UKSL  ( i assume ukl is the normal one and the uksl is the pro one ), both accoplish the ISO 9650-1 and 9650-3, and valid until December the 28th, 2010.

 Regards

   Pedro

PD: follow the link, u can check other countries aswell.

 http://www.viking-yachting.com/usr/viking/VikingDotCom.nsf/linkopen/Liferaftdatasheet-Generaldescription-Approvals?opendocument&@Yachting%20Liferaft@4@2@DGMM%20(Spain)@4#

 PPD: Maybe i'm assuming too much. Does anybody know the difference between UKL and UKSL??? lol...
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2007, 13:52:23 PM »

Maybe we should confirm with the Class : if agreed, 24kg is better than 28kg for same size.
Cheers

not if you pay 1.5k€ for 4 kg difference.
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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2007, 17:24:18 PM »

I studied several different Rafts at the Düsseldorf Boat-show. The lightest Raft weighs aprox. 28 KG. There is nothing lighter out there. If they say so the dont take the weight of the 24 hours-package into the measurment.
I did'nt see one place where to save the 4KGs. Its simply impossible if you want comply with the ISO rules. These rules explain exactly what parts have to be built in etc. They weigh all the same.

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